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Im in SPAMADAN · Jun 03, 2011, 01:37 AM // 01:37

@xiouaiw:
Are you Lila Flowers / Flowers by Lao by chance??

used to know a french gvg player by the name lao, but his acc was banned and has long quit..

Pluberus · Jun 03, 2011, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Most I've ever had at one time: 105k
How much I have now: 8k

lulz. I can't get anything done as an ADHD altaholic...

Plutoman · Jun 03, 2011, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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Originally Posted by Golgotha

In-game currency is mostly worthless aside from show, so I don't see the point of the cut-throat mentality.

It's simple - people want to feel better than others. If they can't in a life situation, then they'll do it on a game. Some people care about it more than others, some people have more patience, some people are better about it, but it comes down to that core principle.

Fox Reeveheart · Jun 03, 2011, 04:23 AM // 04:23

this game has gone to the grinders ._. nice things are horribly expensive, much like FoW armor. took me maybe a year after Nightfall came out before I finally got my FoW set, but even then the time it took was months (the time I decided to start saving for it). But FoW armor remains disgustingly expensive and probably will remain that way for a very very very long time to come.

Casual player? Have fun with generic or bland items (or formerly popular items, which are now basically super cheap or hand-me-downs).

Case in point are the new envoy weapons. 15K? No problem. 15 skill points? Even if you had zero it still wouldn't take THAT long, but that 100 gold zaishen coins!? Holy god! You know how long it took me to just get 15 gold coins when I started only playing the game casually? MONTHS!

Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item.

When I got my FoW armor, I was happy, but I was frustrated because it had taken so many months to afford the darn thing. If anything it was a sigh of relief, a feeling of "finally, it's over." There was no sense of accomplishment at all, just being tired and glad I was done with it.

w00t! · Jun 03, 2011, 04:29 AM // 04:29

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Originally Posted by Mig Coconut

But, luckily GW is not a money-based game. You can get the maximum effective weapons and armor for cheap. Personally, I don't know why anybody would want umpteen stacks of ectos, especially if they already got all the super-expensive stuff (mini kanaxai, etc).

QFT.

Straight up playing will get you most everything you need, including elite armor and that rare weapon drop every now and again.

So it really comes down to owning minis, and sadly, with the exceptions of the Panda and Jingle Bear, all of the uber-rare minis are fugly.

The psyche of many players explains this phenomenon. Lots of Pokeman players who gotta get it all. If that's what makes them happy, good on em. I for one can't figure out what I even want to buy with my fairly meager (by these standards) wealth.

Jeydra · Jun 03, 2011, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item.

Would you rather have weapons like a 17-24, q8 Swordsmanship, +20% damage while health > 50%, +40 HP and Sundering 30/30 Sword that drops only from UW HM chest and is rarer than a Dhuum's Soul Reaper?

If you can't stand the grind to get FoW armour, don't get it. Other armour are no less effective than FoW armour. They don't give you more mana, more HP, more armour level, or whatever. I don't see what you're complaining about.

thedarkmarine · Jun 03, 2011, 05:28 AM // 05:28

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

this game has gone to the grinders ._. nice things are horribly expensive, much like FoW armor. took me maybe a year after Nightfall came out before I finally got my FoW set, but even then the time it took was months (the time I decided to start saving for it). But FoW armor remains disgustingly expensive and probably will remain that way for a very very very long time to come.

Casual player? Have fun with generic or bland items (or formerly popular items, which are now basically super cheap or hand-me-downs).

Case in point are the new envoy weapons. 15K? No problem. 15 skill points? Even if you had zero it still wouldn't take THAT long, but that 100 gold zaishen coins!? Holy god! You know how long it took me to just get 15 gold coins when I started only playing the game casually? MONTHS!

Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item.

When I got my FoW armor, I was happy, but I was frustrated because it had taken so many months to afford the darn thing. If anything it was a sigh of relief, a feeling of "finally, it's over." There was no sense of accomplishment at all, just being tired and glad I was done with it.

that's some overinflated sense of entitlement

cataphract · Jun 03, 2011, 06:23 AM // 06:23

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Originally Posted by Urcscumug

That's a bit patronizing, isn't it? Any player, really? You just assume they're all clueless?

Now you're starting to not pay attention and jump to conclusions. The "any player" you found so interesting to troll about basically means "any player that comes up to me with a high-end item asking 10k for it". You know, like you so cleverly asked in your previous post.

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Originally Posted by Urcscumug

Not weird, more like half-arsed and naive. And stop feeling righteous about it, it's killing me.

Just don't try it with the guy selling an iPhone for $50 at street corner, please.

I am sorry to disappoint but my playing style reflects my conduct in RL. While I may throw an occassional tantrum and hissy-fit I remain honest. Not because I seek acknowledgement from you or anyone else but because it suits me better. People who see that as half-arsedness, naiveness and self-righteousness are basically speaking volumes about themselves, not me.

As for the iPhone - why would anyone in their right mind ever buy such a crappy piece of technology is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Urcscumug

Back to the game: has it ever occured to you to take the item, sell it for the "right" price yourself and then track down the guy and give him the money? I'm sure both my fictional guy and your friend would have appreciated it.

No, it has not. For a variety of reasons. Firstly, there's no point in me wasting my time to sell the item and track people down. I'm neither a broker nor a ranger. Secondly, people learn better from their own experiences. By pointing them in a direction of "get a price check, then sell it" they're learning about an amazing new thing - being independent. Spoon-feeding only turns people into brainless morons who can't even take care of themselves.

Urcscumug · Jun 03, 2011, 11:58 AM // 11:58

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Originally Posted by cataphract

I am sorry to disappoint but my playing style reflects my conduct in RL.

OK. Let's leave this particular topic alone. It's too personal and no matter how we put it it's bound to come across as personal attacks.

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Originally Posted by cataphract

The "any player" you found so interesting to troll about basically means "any player that comes up to me with a high-end item asking 10k for it".

Yes, I got that. I don't get why a player doing that must be automatically clueless.

But what if they mean it? Some people give away stuff or sell it short just to clear storage. You can't just assume everybody's clueless.

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Firstly, there's no point in me wasting my time to sell the item and track people down. I'm neither a broker nor a ranger.

I meant add them to the friends list, not track footprints in the forest.

And if you won't put in the time and effort to get the right price, why expect them to? Please reconsider my solution: take the item, sell it high, give the guy half. You get a comission so it's not a waste of time, and they're better off anyway.

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Spoon-feeding only turns people into brainless morons who can't even take care of themselves.

I agree. But you also said you'd give a guy 10k for nothing. How does that fit in with this?

Face it, at the end of the day, when you see someone doing something seemingly stupid, there's only two real options:
1) Mind your own business. Mention to them what's wrong if you fell like it, but leave it at that.
2) If you get involved, get involved properly and see the thing through.
Anything in-between and you come across as a busybody.

words can heal · Jun 03, 2011, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Made hundreds of plat selling rolls of parchment at the height of the 55 Monk, Running to Rata Sum at the start of EotN made me a lot, charged 6K a run party of 6 or 8, I forget how many it was. Loadsa dosh.

Oh, and droks runs... surprised thats not been mentioned here.

Bright Star Shine · Jun 03, 2011, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by words can heal

Made hundreds of plat selling rolls of parchment at the height of the 55 Monk, Running to Rata Sum at the start of EotN made me a lot, charged 6K a run party of 6 or 8, I forget how many it was. Loadsa dosh.

Oh, and droks runs... surprised thats not been mentioned here.

It's not mentioned here, because we're not talking about something as tiny as 500k.. We're talking 100,000 ecto's in some cases here... No one made that amount of money by running people to droks...

Ranger Jaap · Jun 03, 2011, 01:22 PM // 13:22

dupers gonna dupe

w00t! · Jun 03, 2011, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by thedarkmarine

that's some overinflated sense of entitlement

Lol, how surprising that people on this are going to complain that they can't get everything they want without working for it. Overinflated is an understatement!

The operative phrase here is that "You can have everything you need in GW, just not everything you want."

LifeInfusion · Jun 03, 2011, 07:04 PM // 19:04

LEGIT:
AFAIK I remember a time about a month after release ecxtos were reset in price at the trader and people bought stacks. This time wasn't reset. It happened a second time and it was reset that time.

Having rich people quit and donate stuff to you.

Lucky drops (polar bear), contests (MKG), ingame contest (rollerbeetle)

NON-LEGIT:
Ebaying.

Also duping.

clear · Jun 03, 2011, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Scamming back in the day would net you 1,000k before you got banned.

Krystaline · Jun 06, 2011, 05:43 PM // 17:43

*Looks at the 19k in her bags, then back at this thread*

100,000 ectos boggles my mind. I have yet to see one lol.

Axeman002 · Jun 06, 2011, 07:54 PM // 19:54

no-one will be able top get as rich as the super-rich of past years.from zero to like 2000 armbrace worth of items/ecto.

1...everyone these days seems to think there powertraders...so selling anything for a profit normally ends up in a non reply...or being labelled a scammer (had it many a time lol)...people just want everything for about 10-20 less than there value...and thats pretty much everywhere in game now.

2..there isnt exploits like there used to be and super speedclears like 10 min UW ..12 min FoW..3 minute Duncan reapeatable...its all stamped out so now its all grind of DoA to get reasonably wealthy...but not super-rich.

and since everyone seems to be hungry t5o be rich...most items that used to be 400-500e are now like 100e.

Bright Star Shine · Jun 06, 2011, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by Axeman002

no-one will be able top get as rich as the super-rich of past years.from zero to like 2000 armbrace worth of items/ecto.

1...everyone these days seems to think there powertraders...so selling anything for a profit normally ends up in a non reply...or being labelled a scammer (had it many a time lol)...people just want everything for about 10-20 less than there value...and thats pretty much everywhere in game now.

2..there isnt exploits like there used to be and super speedclears like 10 min UW ..12 min FoW..3 minute Duncan reapeatable...its all stamped out so now its all grind of DoA to get reasonably wealthy...but not super-rich.

and since everyone seems to be hungry t5o be rich...most items that used to be 400-500e are now like 100e.

Tbh, UW has been crippled by reducing the time needed to clear it about in half: it used to be <10 mins for the pro guilds, now it's <30 for the pro's, but the chest actually yields more profit now.
FoW: can still be done in 12 minutes easily, in fact 15 minutes is piss easy, and it only goes very slightly harder to go lower.
DoA: has only become faster since the SF nerf, but that's due to introductions of new tactics. Zraw runs ~35min casuals consistently, we run 35-45 runs consistently. Just because we leave a little more room for screwups.. DoA or being good at mAT's are probably the only 2 ways of making stacks of ecto's these days. I know DoA can easily yield up to a stack/month, more if you really put yourself behind it, but it can get boring fast if you do it too much.

But you're right, the exploits like duping, mallyx farm, Duncan farm.. have been stomped out. There are probably loads of exploits left to discover, but by the rate they get found these days, abusing them won't last long I fear. Unless you can keep your mouth shut and keep them to yourself.. Tough luck with that...

Now on the subject of the truly rich: they either got lucky with the dupe exploit, or they powertraded high-end mini's like crazy (I know of a couple instances where 1 trade could yield up to 1000e+, go check "trade of the day thread") or a combination of both...

Oh, and on your #1 comment: that really pisses me off. Whenever I sell something I sell it way below average price because I'm too lazy to look for nice trades, but even then I get powertrading dickheads that want to lowball my lowball offers... I usually tell them to piss off and sell it a couple minutes later.. And the other way around, when I buy something, I tend to always offer a reasonable price for things I need, but even then they want 10x the amount I'm offering. Also usually then I tell them to piss off and find reasonable people afterwards.. But it's insane how greedy some people are..

Norian · Jun 06, 2011, 08:25 PM // 20:25

I have 1000plat+ in $$$ and ectos and I've been playing for ~5months+

Someone playing for 6+ years could accumulate a ton...

Bright Star Shine · Jun 06, 2011, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Norian

I have 1000plat+ in $$$ and ectos and I've been playing for ~5months+

Someone playing for 6+ years could accumulate a ton...

Back in the early days making money wasn't as easy as it is today tbh.. And making the amount of money some people have is impossible to accumulate in a lifetime, even when farming stuff 24/7 with 10 accounts...

Jun 03, 2011, 01:37 AM // 01:37	#81
Im in SPAMADAN Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 2k09 - golden gvg days Guild: [uMbO] Profession: W/E	@xiouaiw: Are you Lila Flowers / Flowers by Lao by chance?? used to know a french gvg player by the name lao, but his acc was banned and has long quit..

Jun 03, 2011, 02:17 AM // 02:17	#82
Pluberus Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2009	Most I've ever had at one time: 105k How much I have now: 8k lulz. I can't get anything done as an ADHD altaholic...

Jun 03, 2011, 04:23 AM // 04:23	#84
Fox Reeveheart Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: none q.q Profession: D/	this game has gone to the grinders ._. nice things are horribly expensive, much like FoW armor. took me maybe a year after Nightfall came out before I finally got my FoW set, but even then the time it took was months (the time I decided to start saving for it). But FoW armor remains disgustingly expensive and probably will remain that way for a very very very long time to come. Casual player? Have fun with generic or bland items (or formerly popular items, which are now basically super cheap or hand-me-downs). Case in point are the new envoy weapons. 15K? No problem. 15 skill points? Even if you had zero it still wouldn't take THAT long, but that 100 gold zaishen coins!? Holy god! You know how long it took me to just get 15 gold coins when I started only playing the game casually? MONTHS! Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item. When I got my FoW armor, I was happy, but I was frustrated because it had taken so many months to afford the darn thing. If anything it was a sigh of relief, a feeling of "finally, it's over." There was no sense of accomplishment at all, just being tired and glad I was done with it.

Jun 03, 2011, 12:57 PM // 12:57	#90
words can heal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: Farmers Union [CASH] Profession: Mo/	Made hundreds of plat selling rolls of parchment at the height of the 55 Monk, Running to Rata Sum at the start of EotN made me a lot, charged 6K a run party of 6 or 8, I forget how many it was. Loadsa dosh. Oh, and droks runs... surprised thats not been mentioned here.

Jun 03, 2011, 01:22 PM // 13:22	#92
Ranger Jaap Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2007	dupers gonna dupe

Jun 03, 2011, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#94
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	LEGIT: AFAIK I remember a time about a month after release ecxtos were reset in price at the trader and people bought stacks. This time wasn't reset. It happened a second time and it was reset that time. Having rich people quit and donate stuff to you. Lucky drops (polar bear), contests (MKG), ingame contest (rollerbeetle) NON-LEGIT: Ebaying. Also duping.

Jun 03, 2011, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#95
clear Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: Mo/Me	Scamming back in the day would net you 1,000k before you got banned.

Jun 06, 2011, 05:43 PM // 17:43	#96
Krystaline Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2011 Profession: E/	Looks at the 19k in her bags, then back at this thread 100,000 ectos boggles my mind. I have yet to see one lol.

Jun 06, 2011, 07:54 PM // 19:54	#97
Axeman002 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2008 Profession: A/Mo	no-one will be able top get as rich as the super-rich of past years.from zero to like 2000 armbrace worth of items/ecto. 1...everyone these days seems to think there powertraders...so selling anything for a profit normally ends up in a non reply...or being labelled a scammer (had it many a time lol)...people just want everything for about 10-20 less than there value...and thats pretty much everywhere in game now. 2..there isnt exploits like there used to be and super speedclears like 10 min UW ..12 min FoW..3 minute Duncan reapeatable...its all stamped out so now its all grind of DoA to get reasonably wealthy...but not super-rich. and since everyone seems to be hungry t5o be rich...most items that used to be 400-500e are now like 100e.

Jun 06, 2011, 08:25 PM // 20:25	#99
Norian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010	I have 1000plat+ in $$$ and ectos and I've been playing for ~5months+ Someone playing for 6+ years could accumulate a ton...